tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post1854150533867975591..comments2024-03-28T16:45:51.051+00:00Comments on The IPKat: Archiving online citations: are we all Americans now?Verónica RodrÃguez Arguijohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05763207846940036921noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-90768700762019992052010-07-01T14:04:08.642+01:002010-07-01T14:04:08.642+01:00Art 43b (1) of the Austrian "Medien Gesetz&qu...Art 43b (1) of the Austrian <a href="http://www.ris.bka.gv.at/GeltendeFassung.wxe?Abfrage=Bundesnormen&Gesetzesnummer=10000719" rel="nofollow">"Medien Gesetz"</a> explicitly allows the Austrian National Library to archive websites under Austrian top-level domains (.a) or websites which contain content that is related to Austria. <br /><a href="http://www.onb.ac.at/ev/about/webarchive.htm" rel="nofollow">Web@rchive Austria</a><br />The data can be accessed only from inside the National Library trough a single terminal. You may look at the website, copying is not allowed, print-outs are possible. <br /><br />Although the service is seriously limited (one user at a time) I have to say that the service works surprisingly well and I think its just a matter of time until this service is extended to more frequent "harvests" (only two so far) and more depth (only a few MB per site so far). The fact however that users can not copy but only "print" websites ... should serve as a reminder that Austrian copyright obviously & desperately needs an overhaul.Maximilian Schuberthttp://austrotrabant.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-61798256764803664652010-06-30T12:53:41.290+01:002010-06-30T12:53:41.290+01:00The only person, I think, who is researching these...The only person, I think, who is researching these issues is Adrienne Muir from Loughborough University; she knows all there is to know about legal issues of archiving web pages. Incidentally, it may be acceptable under US copyright law, but it is definitely illegal under UK law, so the Webcite service is not recommended for UK folk!Charles Oppenheimhttp://www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/dis/people/coppenheim.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-36837652783926771882010-06-30T12:16:57.654+01:002010-06-30T12:16:57.654+01:00there was a similar case in Barcelona regarding Go...there was a similar case in Barcelona regarding Google's cache system.<br /><br />http://www.linksandlaw.com/news-update60-megakini-case-spain.htmJavinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-76528582527295559452010-06-29T23:25:05.445+01:002010-06-29T23:25:05.445+01:00A case can be made that the ambiguity of the US fa...A case can be made that the ambiguity of the US fair use doctrine allows entrepreneurs of all stripes to try out new business models for at least as long as it takes for a copyright owner to work out what the law is and bring an action to judgment. Even from a US perspective, WebCite's justification is magnificent in its preposterousness. No caching is taking place. No "transformative use" is taking place. And Berne's three step test? A joke to those who believe in a society based on law; meat and drink to Google and co.Lakanalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-2955531862053887002010-06-29T23:06:19.681+01:002010-06-29T23:06:19.681+01:00An alternative would be to encourage academics fro...An alternative would be to encourage academics from other fields to adopt the highly successful model of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArXiv" rel="nofollow">arXiv</a>. Quality appears to be very high (peer-reviewed journals are not free from error) and the physics community in particular have been working this way for a long time. <br /><br />Consensual sharing strikes me as being a more workable solution, given varying copyright laws around the world, than something like this. Of course that doesn't deal with older material, but that is a problem anyway.<br /><br />I'd be interested to know what US lawyers think of the fair use argument.Francis Daveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10228026893626221724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-29153796279917394662010-06-29T22:10:00.267+01:002010-06-29T22:10:00.267+01:00Try these guys: http://www.webarchive.org.uk/ukwa/...Try these guys: http://www.webarchive.org.uk/ukwa/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-87530834712259922802010-06-29T18:22:54.317+01:002010-06-29T18:22:54.317+01:00"Please contact us if you are the copyright o..."Please contact us if you are the copyright owner of an archived webpage which you want to have removed."<br /><br />This introduces the same lack of control that renders reliance on such as the Internet Archive legally questionable - material can disappear at the copyright owner's whim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com