tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post2881920420608724659..comments2024-03-19T05:22:15.632+00:00Comments on The IPKat: Who should pay for the independence of the Boards of Appeal? Why the users, of course!Verónica Rodríguez Arguijohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05763207846940036921noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-43349345393765931272016-07-07T15:27:45.307+01:002016-07-07T15:27:45.307+01:00Why is this blog still silent about the Administra...Why is this blog still silent about the Administrative Council approving the proposed reform last Thursday, with only some relatively minor amendments? This approval is apparently perceived as unbelievable by anybody (except the EPO administration) who dares to express an opinion on the matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-67273965758028842592016-06-15T07:16:38.409+01:002016-06-15T07:16:38.409+01:00BB is appointed by the AC so it is they who would ...BB is appointed by the AC so it is they who would decide his future employment? But if he leaves within 10 years is his pension still retained by the EPO?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-28283436924766711562016-06-14T23:48:29.314+01:002016-06-14T23:48:29.314+01:00Mr. Battistelli sent a threatening message to the ...<i>Mr. Battistelli sent a threatening message to the Enlarged Board of Appeal </i><br /><br />If true, then according to the Guidelines for Investigation, everyone concerned has a DUTY to report Mr. B. to the investigative unit. According to what had been presented as his contract, he is after all submitted to the same staff regulations as every one else...<br /><br />When Mr. Battistelli leaves service in one way or another, will he be submitted to the whim of his successor before applying to a new job?<br /><br />And if there is a vacancy at the top, does this mean that no one can leave the EPO anymore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-64739342051788356102016-06-14T19:10:21.692+01:002016-06-14T19:10:21.692+01:00According to a source cited by Techrights - always...According to a source cited by Techrights - always to be taken with a pinch of salt, still Techrights was the first to disclose the threats of Battistelli to the EBA:<br /><br />"inside sources say that Mr. Battistelli sent a threatening message to the Enlarged Board of Appeal dealing with the case, to the effect that they should not let the public be present during the hearing. The EBA is said to take this very seriously and to have forwarded the president’s threat to the chairman of the Administrative Council.”Et sinon je reprendrais bien des croquettes ...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-48666221554528898522016-06-14T18:58:52.399+01:002016-06-14T18:58:52.399+01:00Finally, Battistelli is showing to everybody his t...Finally, Battistelli is showing to everybody his true face.Dismiss himnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-56693504383072185782016-06-14T17:54:36.207+01:002016-06-14T17:54:36.207+01:00At the end of today´s public oral proceedings in r...At the end of today´s public oral proceedings in relation to a petition by the AC of the EPO to the Enlarged Board of Appeal to remove a judge from office, the EBA announced<br />1. that its members had received a threatening letter from "an authority which is not a party to the procedure"<br />2. that it had requested the petitioner in its quality of the members´ appointing authority to distance itself from the threats in that letter<br />3. that in its response the petitioner did not adequately distance itself from the received letter<br />4. that the EBK could not in the circumstances pursue the procedure, which accordingly was terminated without the EBA proposing removal from office of the respondent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-69311133272188520382016-06-13T20:51:50.351+01:002016-06-13T20:51:50.351+01:00Meanwhile at the EPO, AMBA have produced another p...Meanwhile at the EPO, AMBA have produced another polite but scathing critique:<br /><br />http://amba-epo.org/Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolongednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-66913154463409521642016-06-09T20:28:19.653+01:002016-06-09T20:28:19.653+01:00Ah yes, the famous "Hitchhiker's Guide&qu...Ah yes, the famous "Hitchhiker's Guide" approach to public proceedings:<br /><br />M. BATTISTELLI: But, Mr Dent, the notice of the hearing has been available in the EPO for the last week!<br /><br />ARTHUR DENT (PATENT ATTORNEY): Yes! I went round to find it yesterday afternoon. You’d hadn’t exactly gone out of your way to pull much attention to them have you? I mean, like actually telling anybody or anything.<br /><br />M. BATTISTELLI: The announcement was on display.<br /><br />ARTHUR DENT: Ah! And how many members of the public are in the habit of casually dropping around the EPO of an evening?<br /><br />M. BATTISTELLI: Er – ah!<br /><br />ARTHUR DENT: It’s not exactly a noted social venue is it? And even if you had popped in on the off chance that some raving bureaucrat wanted to fire a member of the Board of Appeal, the announcement wasn't immediately obvious to the eye, was it?<br /><br />M. BATTISTELLI: That depends where you were looking.<br /><br />ARTHUR DENT: I eventually had to go down to the cellar!<br /><br />M. BATTISTELLI: That’s the public area of the Office.<br /><br />ARTHUR DENT: With a torch!<br /><br />M. BATTISTELLI: The lights, had… probably gone.<br /><br />ARTHUR DENT: So had the stairs!<br /><br />M. BATTISTELLI: Well you found the notice didn’t you?<br /><br />ARTHUR DENT: Yes. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet, stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of the Leopard”.slartibartfastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-79406203321880493782016-06-09T16:31:19.403+01:002016-06-09T16:31:19.403+01:00@ Merpel
Indeed, the public announcement of the o...@ Merpel<br /><br />Indeed, the public announcement of the oral proceedings in Art. 23 1/16 at the entrance of the Isar building indicates the hearing is public.<br />It is also known room 131 is a very small one! If the EBA as it seems in fact decided to held a public hearing, the administration was again creative in finding way to circumvent the effective presence of the public…<br /><br />The EPO JesterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-8537385823072194082016-06-09T15:07:40.036+01:002016-06-09T15:07:40.036+01:00My clients insist on copy invoices for all my
&qu...<i>My clients insist on copy invoices for all my <br />"disbursements". No copy invoice, no payment.</i><br /><br />What accounting codes do you use on your time sheet for "IPkat" and "Patently-O"?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-41668198310518830562016-06-09T09:59:32.610+01:002016-06-09T09:59:32.610+01:00Schweinsteiger,
Public? If the accused him or hers...Schweinsteiger,<br />Public? If the accused him or herself is banned from the building?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-68835951106629237382016-06-08T22:08:08.261+01:002016-06-08T22:08:08.261+01:00@Merpel
An announcement of the oral proceedings i...@Merpel<br /><br />An announcement of the oral proceedings in Art. 23 1/16 can be found in the public area of the Isar building.schweinsteigernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-80635938056876409172016-06-08T18:21:12.973+01:002016-06-08T18:21:12.973+01:00Appeal fees do not translate to patent renewal fe...Appeal fees do not translate to patent renewal fees, the only fee the Member States receive/keep a share of.<br />Higher appeal fees = less appeals, likely also lees DG3 decissions reversing refusals, ths even less renewal fees for MSs.<br />Having a Headache from construction works....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-87803272515439208482016-06-08T16:57:05.463+01:002016-06-08T16:57:05.463+01:00What the Administrative Council will see is "...<i>What the Administrative Council will see is "Increased appeal fees = More Money for us"</i><br /><br />Just like the 2008 increase in claims fees that resulted in a collapse in the number of claims, and consequent damage to claims fee income?<br />Meldrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841440718012449720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-39206516012293393262016-06-08T12:57:57.501+01:002016-06-08T12:57:57.501+01:00Merpel sincerely hopes that this mad proposal will...<i>Merpel sincerely hopes that this mad proposal will be ditched before then, or rejected by the Administrative Council.</i><br /><br />What the Administrative Council will see is "Increased appeal fees = More Money for us".<br /><br />You can imagine the rest.<br />Et sinon je reprendrais bien des croquettes ...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-18804822759584469432016-06-08T11:04:46.568+01:002016-06-08T11:04:46.568+01:00"Perhaps a table of number of grants against ...<i>"Perhaps a table of number of grants against number of ex-parte appeals may help (or refusals even). Given the increase in productivity, could there be a simpler link - less refusals = less appeals".</i><br /><br />Not according to EP Bulletin, which shows more refusals in 2015 (4336) than in 2014 (4146), but less than in 2013 (4591). Based on these figures the appeal rate seems to have dropped from 26% in 2013 to 24% in 2014, to 19.9% in 2015.<br /><br />Of course, it is difficult to say what is the "right" level of appeal, and perhaps the "quality" of refusals has grown so high in the last two years that fewer applicants dare appeal. <br /><br />Perhaps.<br /><br /><br /> Meldrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841440718012449720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-50626568192724805372016-06-07T22:36:38.720+01:002016-06-07T22:36:38.720+01:00Meldrew,
Perhaps a table of number of grants again...Meldrew,<br />Perhaps a table of number of grants against number of ex-parte appeals may help (or refusals even). Given the increase in productivity, could there be a simpler link - less refusals = less appealsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-35844326705676844222016-06-07T19:23:04.032+01:002016-06-07T19:23:04.032+01:00A few thoughts on the effect of the last big incre...A few thoughts on the effect of the last big increase in appeal fees can be found <a href="http://ipnoncredere.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/but-is-it-appealing.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>Meldrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09841440718012449720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-33067015399630576012016-06-07T14:21:56.105+01:002016-06-07T14:21:56.105+01:00The Bike has been expertised and only normal wear ...<i>The Bike has been expertised and only normal wear detected on the brakes</i><br /><br />You are joking, right? Expertised by whom, anyway?Bicycle Repairmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-79962030705367730662016-06-07T14:00:53.076+01:002016-06-07T14:00:53.076+01:00The Bike has been expertised and only normal wear ...The Bike has been expertised and only normal wear detected on the brakes ...I guess it will not make it to the intranet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-29182921236453401972016-06-07T13:12:23.917+01:002016-06-07T13:12:23.917+01:00Article 12a of the Rules of Procedure of the Enlar...Article 12a of the Rules of Procedure of the Enlarged Boards of Appeal, setting the procedure of proceedings under Art 23(1) EPC states:<br />(9) Unless and to the extent that the Enlarged Board decides otherwise, the proceedings shall not be public and shall be confidential.<br />Has the EBA really decided otherwise in this case?Merpelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01092387011898424303noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-84900162724741972662016-06-07T12:53:57.252+01:002016-06-07T12:53:57.252+01:00@Censored
the hearings next week in the case of t...@Censored<br /><br />the hearings next week in the case of the suspended member of the BoA are public and planned to last 3 days - but I am ready to bet with you that as soon as a critical level of interest in them will be reached, despite the attempts of the Office to hide their occurrence, the President will find a good excuse to block access to the public.<br /><br />As you said: "unless particular circumstances dictate otherwise."Nothing to see herenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-27205668436985158172016-06-07T12:13:52.844+01:002016-06-07T12:13:52.844+01:00Interestingly, in the recent survey conducted by S...Interestingly, in the recent survey conducted by SUEPO, IP blogs are considered as a relevant source of information for 45% of the respondents - far higher than the 9% for Top management and 17% for Internal communications ...<br /><br />https://suepo.org/documents/43311/54958.pdf<br /><br />See page 19.<br /><br />But I'm sure it has nothing to do with the banning of the site within the EPO ...Violettanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-72652088557597217502016-06-07T11:48:07.931+01:002016-06-07T11:48:07.931+01:00Well http://www.epo.org/applying/online-services/p...<i> Well http://www.epo.org/applying/online-services/proceedings/calendar.html? for 14th June does not list the proceedings or indeed any proceedings in 131. Note that proceedings in appeal are public unless particular circumstances dictate otherwise. Could that be the case here? </i><br /><br />Well spotted. <br /><br />And in the same vein the EPO site does not provide access to the previous decisions in cases Art. 23 1/15 and Art. 23 2/15 - despite the fact that the Enlarged Board determined that they be published.<br /><br />Who cares as long as Wikipedia is available.<br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_23_1/15_and_Art_23_2/15<br /><br />But probably not for much longer at the EPO ...<br /><br /> Censorednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-18360770892138117612016-06-07T11:47:19.102+01:002016-06-07T11:47:19.102+01:00Weirdly enough, I cannot access ipkitten.blogspot....Weirdly enough, I cannot access ipkitten.blogspot.de for the reason mentioned above (malicious/Malnet).<br />ipkitten.blogspot.nl works find.<br />.co.uk too.<br />If one knows how Google (and thus blogspot) work, it become obvious that there is no malware automagically detected by the firewall software, but the reason is very fabricated. Well, it works for Munich. DG0 cannot access this site anymore. Nor the AC-members coming to Munich.Kaynoreply@blogger.com