tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post8702826829708543739..comments2024-03-29T13:59:42.629+00:00Comments on The IPKat: BREAKING: EQE and pre-EQE postponed until further noticeVerónica RodrÃguez Arguijohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05763207846940036921noreply@blogger.comBlogger159125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-10945763573160877502020-11-18T07:14:04.434+00:002020-11-18T07:14:04.434+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymous https://www.blogger.com/profile/13525125732225630141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-17350922805834201162020-04-07T12:51:52.273+01:002020-04-07T12:51:52.273+01:00Over a month now since the initial statement from ...Over a month now since the initial statement from the EQE and while it was almost certainly the right decision, the lack of communication since then has been appalling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-7448768241476783262020-04-03T16:42:55.370+01:002020-04-03T16:42:55.370+01:00Terrible mis-judgment of the situation, the commun...Terrible mis-judgment of the situation, the communication had an information part directed to the future.<br /><br />An examination involving 2'000 people cannot be shifted by magic to a new date, if at all, since EQE 2021 is looming around with its mandatory deadlines for inscriptions etc.<br /><br />The Supervisory Board consists of 2 EPO members and two epi members. The latter are not paid at all (BTW like all epi members engaged in the examination (as e.g. markers)).<br /><br />Looking back at the beginning of April at .e.g. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51918596 postponement could have been the right decisionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-39547941164370382712020-03-29T21:08:02.352+01:002020-03-29T21:08:02.352+01:00In view that it will take 6-7 months for things to...In view that it will take 6-7 months for things to return to normal - should PEB exams go ahead this year?<br /><br />I'm not so sure it would be wise to do so. <br /><br />https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52084517<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-85557376321632858272020-03-23T10:54:12.651+00:002020-03-23T10:54:12.651+00:00It looks like Olympic game is going to be cancelle...It looks like Olympic game is going to be cancelled but the arguments made for early cancellation i.e. making the decision now seems very reasonable. <br /><br />Emotional wellbeing of candidates - "The uncertainty of the PEB exams happening in October and the inherent desire and motivation to excel that resides in all our candidates is causing real anguish that we can, collectively, put a stop to."<br /><br />There is a case that making the decision early will help. It has been obvious that we are not going to enter a normal period for some time. Nobody wants to cancel the exams but I urge PEB to cancel the exams this year in October due to the current situation we are facing.<br /> <br />Check out the BBC article below. <br /><br />https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/52002474PETEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-9909965775518071742020-03-22T14:57:20.642+00:002020-03-22T14:57:20.642+00:00As the situation deteriorates rapidly, I am also j...As the situation deteriorates rapidly, I am also joining the group who thinks that it is no longer feasible to hold PEB exams in October. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-54055718854348277942020-03-21T14:39:10.803+00:002020-03-21T14:39:10.803+00:00The supervisory board have been absolutely shockin...The supervisory board have been absolutely shocking in their silence and non-communicative responses to their candidates and stakeholders since 5th March. No communication whatsoever after the decision. <br /><br />They should resign or stop paying themselves.<br /><br />We've asked for a helpline to be set up for weeks - nothing none.<br /><br />Emails are not responded too.<br /><br />No further communication at all if it is just as simply as "we can no longer realistically hold any exams in 3 months time". <br /><br />I understand times are hard but this is when the EPO should be providing more leadership.<br /><br />They are so inflexible in their thinking. The supervisory board members should resign in my view. They have been terrible ever since the decision was made to cancel/postpone! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-59240058864948659512020-03-19T18:09:23.548+00:002020-03-19T18:09:23.548+00:00I guess October PEB exams will almost certainly be...I guess October PEB exams will almost certainly be cancelled. <br /><br />This situation is going downhill. 12 weeks may be slightly better but there is no way we are going to recover pre-coronavirus in 12 weeks. People are going to lose jobs, loved ones and have extreme financial/emotional burden. It will take a whole year to recover from this Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-55481689198417477732020-03-18T16:37:26.327+00:002020-03-18T16:37:26.327+00:00I be surprised if any exams are going ahead this y...I be surprised if any exams are going ahead this year. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-28666965571638817622020-03-18T16:35:53.369+00:002020-03-18T16:35:53.369+00:00Unfortunately there is no training going on in my ...Unfortunately there is no training going on in my firm. This is purely survival mode. I'm more worried about my job over the next few months than exams. <br /><br />I think it should be postponed if things do not improve by the end of June. Namonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-27820522622953572072020-03-18T13:31:27.085+00:002020-03-18T13:31:27.085+00:00Ha ha, nice.
I will take patronising Boomer.
Bee...Ha ha, nice.<br /><br />I will take patronising Boomer.<br /><br />Been a while since I got into an argument on the internet. Thanks for the diversion.<br /><br />Stay safe out there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-48743246395341562522020-03-18T11:39:06.352+00:002020-03-18T11:39:06.352+00:00Calm down. Remember, "one day, all this will ...Calm down. Remember, "one day, all this will be behind you and you will feel better I promise.". Useful comment or patronising Boomer? You decide. SLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01645610905294539516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-81097079580703522442020-03-18T11:10:12.681+00:002020-03-18T11:10:12.681+00:00Your argument now seems to be that there would hav...<i>Your argument now seems to be that there would have been a personal cost to you associated with the EQEs not being cancelled, and you consider that cancelling the EQEs was correct because you don't wish to bear that personal cost. QED.</i><br /><br />Yup. I want fewer people to die therefore you were right all along. Nice one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-37108047310547038102020-03-18T10:10:37.693+00:002020-03-18T10:10:37.693+00:00I am not sure if it is the same people on here as ...I am not sure if it is the same people on here as before, but there were a lot of voices urging the EQE to find a way to go ahead, even if certain countries (like the Italians) could not attend. <br />Surely it is better to have the exams take place as normally as possible - many people will be able to prepare, and some will be disrupted. And you avoid them having to be pushed back and disrupting other exams. <br />Most of the courses are looking at online options. It is not ideal and it is chaotic, but it will not be impossible to study for many people. Graver Tanknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-35289885713219213922020-03-18T08:41:10.117+00:002020-03-18T08:41:10.117+00:00"So the "personal cost" for me woul... "So the "personal cost" for me would be me or loved ones potentially dying of this disease"<br /><br />That isn't a personal cost resulting from the decision to cancel EQEs, that's a personal benefit to you from the decision. <br /><br />Your argument now seems to be that there would have been a personal cost to you associated with the EQEs not being cancelled, and you consider that cancelling the EQEs was correct because you don't wish to bear that personal cost. QED.SLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01645610905294539516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-8478862481845271342020-03-17T22:39:09.195+00:002020-03-17T22:39:09.195+00:00Giving a pass to pre-Eqe is not a good idea nor is...Giving a pass to pre-Eqe is not a good idea nor is it fair on candidates doing main EQE. A better way is to provide reasonable compensation for all affected candidates like discretionary marks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-74683632003074005792020-03-17T22:32:26.405+00:002020-03-17T22:32:26.405+00:00This situation is so serious and much bigger than ...This situation is so serious and much bigger than any of us who have imagine. Revision is probably least on everyone's mind. I think PEB would need to cancel and announcing this in June would be most appropriate.<br /><br />We are in for a long period of disruption. 18 months is latest prediction. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-70823324342711135222020-03-17T22:26:24.456+00:002020-03-17T22:26:24.456+00:001. You can't expect someone to revise when pot...1. You can't expect someone to revise when potentially they might have an EQE rescheduled date later in the year. This rules out EPO candidates as we know<br /><br />2. Universities have cancelled their exams and are trying to find alternative ways of assessment. This may not be possible and exams for QMW or equivalent are cancelled. This rules out candidates who haven't got foundations if exams cannot go ahead. <br /><br />3. JDD courses are often run between May to Aug. This will probably get cancelled as groups are now banned. Lack of course available during crucial revision period. <br /><br />4. Massive disruption to industry and firms. Many firms will suffer through this period. Some employees may be asked to take time off or work part time or be laid off. This massively affect personal finances and well being. <br /><br />5. Health and well being of candidates who may now be asked to take on more caring responsbilities<br /><br />6.coronavirus is likely to last for months.<br /><br />Taking in all these factors will have a massive impact on preparation time. These extradionary measures will probably last through summer and early autumn. In these extradionary events and if there is prolong period of it, PEB should cancel exams in Oct as a significant portion of candidates won't be prepared. They need to announce it early than the EPO did to minimise any distress and time wasted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-27311578466695522482020-03-17T17:57:54.075+00:002020-03-17T17:57:54.075+00:00Some people will have their preparation disrupted,...Some people will have their preparation disrupted, and others will now have extra time to study (you are now being forced to make the social sacrifices that you would normally have to make when you study). <br />Obviously if someone around you gets sick, or you get sick, then it is completely different. But I don't understand why you cannot start your preparation now? - surely, many of the things you learn will also be useful in your job. You can take it easy closer to the exam.Graver Tanknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-27662993309379735002020-03-17T17:48:37.770+00:002020-03-17T17:48:37.770+00:00The burden on the markers is due to the unprepared...The burden on the markers is due to the unprepared people taking the Main Exam papers - there are people who get less than 25 marks, and these have to be marked by two people independently. And by a third if the marks deviate too much. At this level on the C & D papers, these candidates had no chance of passing.Graver Tanknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-87968391040664001642020-03-17T17:05:05.562+00:002020-03-17T17:05:05.562+00:00Me again.
@SP - So the "personal cost"...Me again. <br /><br />@SP - So the "personal cost" for me would be me or loved ones potentially dying of this disease in an overwhelmed hospital because of the rapid spread of the virus. Once again I think you haven't fully grasped the gravity of the present situation. I mean you no ill will, but please do a bit of reading on this subject. I assume you're a technically minded person so you should be able to get to grips with this.<br /><br />@Graver Tank - I do understand how much qualification means, really I do. I also had to pay for my own training. No, I wouldn't be super keen if my kids had to stay in school an extra year, but we are talking about an event the likes of which the world hasn't seen in 100 years.<br /><br />There is every chance that we will all need to be practicing social distancing and so on for most of the rest of this year. If we do not then thousands of vulnerable people will die before their time.<br /><br />Seriously, it's that bad.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-65523510892061731572020-03-17T16:52:33.044+00:002020-03-17T16:52:33.044+00:00Yeah this isn't going away by June.
I'm ...Yeah this isn't going away by June. <br /><br />I'm not even sure it would be sensible to hold an in-person EQE in March <i>2021</i>. Solutions for doing the exams remotely need to be found.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-80292349959549303482020-03-17T15:05:12.470+00:002020-03-17T15:05:12.470+00:00I don't believe that that is comparing like-fo...I don't believe that that is comparing like-for-like. The Main EQEs are a substantive qualifying exam, whereas the pre-EQE is just a barrier to take a further exam. Nobody would be given a free 'pass' in any case; they would simply be allowed to skip the barrier to take the qualifying exam.<br /><br />The UK foundations do give candidates a part-level qualification, so again that is not comparing like-for-like. I agree, it would be unconscionable to give away a level of qualification for free, but that isn't the case with the pre-EQE.<br /><br />Totally agree that a valid argument against waiving it is 'burdening the markers with very poor efforts'. However last year only 107 of the 920 people who took the pre-EQE failed, so I wouldn't say that would represent an unmanageable burden..<br /><br />Having said all that, it would obviously be best if the pre-EQE were reorganised, I just don't think it would be at all unreasonable if it weren'tAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-10909835886335635582020-03-17T14:22:11.426+00:002020-03-17T14:22:11.426+00:00My workplace is also closing down - we are expecte...My workplace is also closing down - we are expected to work from home so training will be affected in some way. Work is gearing up to cope with potentially half of their work force. Trainees are now expected to fulfil other roles and not to concentrate on training. These things need to be considered so I think it is only appropriate to cancel PEB exams this year. <br /><br />By the End of June - if situation is not improving, it should be cancelled. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-80872594728643322132020-03-17T14:20:02.336+00:002020-03-17T14:20:02.336+00:00I think we need to have wider considerations as ex...I think we need to have wider considerations as exams are not just on the day but has many months of preparation. Some will catch it, others will have more caring responsibilities during this crisis and unfortunately some will lose their loves one. Preparation will be disrupted so I think its not bad to cancel PEB exams during these testing times. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com