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I just so happen to also be an attorney that understands the technology and I recognize that your position is not sustainable given the law and given how the technology actually works.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI bring this up so that the law may properly recognize distinctions that have actual differences from those distinctions (such as yours) that do not."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/5481462071686805976"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/5481462071686805976"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414507022178#c5481462071686805976","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Tuesday, 28 October 2014 14:37:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-3553882130780157757"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-28T11:51:28.603Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-28T11:51:28.603Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"They only reactivated it becasue the SIDS parents ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"They only reactivated it becasue the SIDS parents applied to use it.\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/5685646514500486843\/comments\/default\/3553882130780157757"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/5685646514500486843\/comments\/default\/3553882130780157757"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/red-nose-day-in-court.html?showComment=1414497088603#c3553882130780157757","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/09\/red-nose-day-in-court.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-5685646514500486843","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/5685646514500486843","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-2012646192"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Tuesday, 28 October 2014 11:51:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-853789389060141933"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-28T11:33:18.590Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-28T11:33:18.590Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"The \u0026quot;job\u0026quot; of the Administrative Council ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"The \u0026quot;job\u0026quot; of the Administrative Council is to convene on EPO premises once a quarter, politely listen to the waffle spouted by EPO management and enjoy the excellent lunches financed by the renewal fees generously donated by the EPO\u0026#39;s \u0026quot;user community\u0026quot;."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/853789389060141933"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/853789389060141933"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html?showComment=1414495998590#c853789389060141933","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1408220374290662568","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1408220374290662568","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1588679439"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Tuesday, 28 October 2014 11:33:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-6650616576817068965"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-28T11:28:06.883Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-28T11:28:06.883Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I have read and re-read this order in the French v..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I have read and re-read this order in the French version and in particular the operative part (para 20). In my view, the paywall restriction remains in place. In addition, the last sentence of para 18 refers to the rightolders having given permission i.e the \u0026quot;lawfulness\u0026quot; of the first communication.  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Of course, the Svensson judgment appeared to suggest that paywall circumvention is an infringement, but in BestWater the language appears more blurred than Svensson ... I guess we will have to wait for C More to have the definite answer."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/3271503625216412441\/comments\/default\/4239459116884948328"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/3271503625216412441\/comments\/default\/4239459116884948328"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/that-bestwater-order-its-up-to.html?showComment=1414492074618#c4239459116884948328","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Eleonora Rosati"},"uri":{"$t":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/05629420303968805446"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"31","height":"21","src":"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-UC3UhEs3ovs\/U0wam8PALBI\/AAAAAAAAELA\/A-IXW8v8h2A\/s1600\/*"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/that-bestwater-order-its-up-to.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-3271503625216412441","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/3271503625216412441","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-558128736"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Tuesday, 28 October 2014 10:27:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1246714624086143891"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-28T07:09:07.725Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-28T07:09:07.725Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"So president is only enjoying power? But why admin..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"So president is only enjoying power? But why administration council is not doing job?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/1246714624086143891"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/1246714624086143891"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html?showComment=1414480147725#c1246714624086143891","title":""},{"rel":"related","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/7539966711828679066"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1408220374290662568","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1408220374290662568","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1782805709"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Tuesday, 28 October 2014 07:09:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-4998399723255777940"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T23:52:35.710Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T23:52:35.710Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I\u0026#39;m not sure the Kat is reading the order enti..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I\u0026#39;m not sure the Kat is reading the order entirely correctly.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Ci\u003EAt paragraph 10 of its order the CJEU says that insertion of links by means of framing does not constitute a communication to a new public because the film was already freely available on YouTube.\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EParagraph 10 of the BestWater order is only recapitulating the context of the question as set out by the Bundesgerichtshof. The CJEU\u0026#39;s own thoughts only start at paragraph 12. In paragraph 16 it seems to explicitly require that the copyright holder has given permission for the earlier publication:\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;Is this not the case, in particular because the work has already been made freely accessible to all internet users \u003Cb\u003Ewith permission of the copyright holder\u003C\/b\u003E, then the [embedding] cannot be qualified as a \u0026#39;communication to the public\u0026#39; within the meaning of art. 3(1) of Directive 2001\/29.\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Ci\u003EHaving said this, does it matter whether the content one links to resides behind a paywall? In this Kat\u0026#39;s personal opinion, it should matter, but the Court appears inclined to think otherwise.\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI don\u0026#39;t see how this would follow from paragraph 18. If the work is behind a paywall, it is not \u0026quot;freely accessible on the website to which the link is directed\u0026quot;."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/3271503625216412441\/comments\/default\/4998399723255777940"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/3271503625216412441\/comments\/default\/4998399723255777940"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/that-bestwater-order-its-up-to.html?showComment=1414453955710#c4998399723255777940","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/that-bestwater-order-its-up-to.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-3271503625216412441","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/3271503625216412441","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-929722860"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 23:52:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-8823735945392942838"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T23:29:52.792Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T23:29:52.792Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Imagine a work (video) published on a small Italia..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u003Ci\u003EImagine a work (video) published on a small Italian site with a description in Italian. Don\u0026#39;t you think that a direct link (frame) to it published on US site does not make in available to a completely new public that would not see it otherwise?\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESvensson does not seem to leave any room for that. That case was about a Swedish newspaper site (and the alleged infringer was Swedish as well), but that did not play any role:\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;The public targeted by the initial communication consisted of all potential visitors to the site concerned, since, given that access to the works on that site was not subject to any restrictive measures, \u003Cb\u003Eall Internet users\u003C\/b\u003E could therefore have free access to them.\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ENot just all internet users in Sweden."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/8823735945392942838"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/8823735945392942838"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414452592792#c8823735945392942838","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-929722860"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 23:29:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-5982019961828986111"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T23:21:50.277Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T23:21:50.277Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"@Anonymous of 13:19\nUm, you do realize that ALL co..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"@Anonymous of 13:19\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Ci\u003EUm, you do realize that ALL computers work by creating a local copy of anything you see on a browser, right?\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EWhy do you think I wrote \u0026quot;(just not the transient\/incidental copy actions necessary to view the work through a browser)\u0026quot;.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Ci\u003ESince someone placing the link within their posting of their copyrighted work on the web, is de facto allowing this copying, the notion of \u0026quot;copying on another server\u0026quot; as somehow not being allowed is simply illogical.\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ELook up the copyright directive. It \u003Cb\u003Eforbids\u003C\/b\u003E copying but makes an exception for:\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;1. Temporary acts of reproduction referred to in Article 2, which are transient or incidental [and] an integral and essential part of a technological process and whose sole purpose is to enable:\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E(a) a transmission in a network between third parties by an intermediary, or\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E(b) a lawful use\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003Eof a work or other subject-matter to be made, and which have no independent economic significance, shall be exempted from the reproduction right provided for in Article 2.\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThis is not ILLOGICAL but at most SUBTLE. Too subtle obviously for those that just want to have everything for free, troubled by a false sense of entitlement."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/5982019961828986111"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/5982019961828986111"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414452110277#c5982019961828986111","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-929722860"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 23:21:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-7589832965213988646"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T13:47:15.057Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T13:47:15.057Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Those who are descending into name-calling should ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Those who are descending into name-calling should THINK for a moment about what is being discussed.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPatents are not given for plans for studying what MAY BE in a compound.  You need to be able to show that you \u003Cb\u003Epossess\u003C\/b\u003E the utility at the time of filing.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAll of those studies \u003Cb\u003Eafter\u003C\/b\u003E filing merely prove that \u003Ci\u003Ethat\u003C\/i\u003E utility was not in fact possessed - only at the conclusion of those after-filing studies could the applicant say they possessed the utility - not a moment before. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ELet\u0026#39;s not be quick to name call and instead spend that time thinking about what is being said."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/7589832965213988646"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/7589832965213988646"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html?showComment=1414417635057#c7589832965213988646","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1148276202575049237","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1148276202575049237","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 13:47:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-5441356820043070688"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T13:42:03.922Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T13:42:03.922Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Anonymous @ 07:31,\n\nPlease open your eyes to the r..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Anonymous @ 07:31,\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPlease open your eyes to the reality of the internet, wherein worldwide range is not something that you can close your eyes and pretend does not exist.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIf you do not want the world wide range, do not place the hyperlink in your work, do not publish it to the web.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIt is that simple."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/5441356820043070688"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/5441356820043070688"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414417323922#c5441356820043070688","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 13:42:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-6183511301588940944"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T13:39:30.858Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T13:39:30.858Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Anonymous @ 01:03,\n\nUm, you do realize that ALL co..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Anonymous @ 01:03,\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EUm, you do realize that ALL computers work by creating a \u003Ci\u003Elocal\u003C\/i\u003E copy of anything you see on a browser, right? \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESince someone placing the link within their posting of their copyrighted work on the web, is \u003Cb\u003Ede facto\u003C\/b\u003E allowing this copying, the notion of \u0026quot;copying on another server\u0026quot; as somehow \u003Ci\u003Enot\u003C\/i\u003E being allowed is simply illogical.  It is like saying black is black, except when I want it to be white when I feel like it."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/6183511301588940944"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/6183511301588940944"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414417170858#c6183511301588940944","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 13:39:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-7539966711828679066"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T12:38:19.217Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T12:38:19.217Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"The challenge for the President is to undermine th..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"The challenge for the President is to undermine the board\u0026#39;s judicial independence whilst making everybody believe that he has in fact enhanced it.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EHis is an expert at this king of game-playing and you may be surprised at how far he can get.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ERemember his immortal words spoken back in 2012 ...\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E« Je n\u0026#39;ai jamais été aussi libre, insiste-t-il. Je n\u0026#39;ai pas de ministère de tutelle, de Parlement, de gouvernement. \u003Cbr \/\u003EC\u0026#39;est nous qui fixons les règles, les discutons, les négocions. » \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003Ehttp:\/\/www.usinenouvelle.com\/article\/le-stratege-du-brevet-europeen.N182255\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/7539966711828679066"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/7539966711828679066"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html?showComment=1414413499217#c7539966711828679066","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1408220374290662568","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1408220374290662568","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1588679439"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 12:38:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-7443162640851054154"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T10:25:56.074Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T10:25:56.074Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"If the president does manage to remove the board\u0026#..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"If the president does manage to remove the board\u0026#39;s judicial independence, that would be a fundamental change in the european patent system. Both TRIPS and ECHR require a judicial instance. If the boards ca no longer fulfil that function, who will? UPC is not yet running, is untested, and does not have jurisdiction outside the EU. CJEU also lacks jurisdiction outside the EU. Leaving national courts to resolve many cases, several thousand each year. Is it in the interests of industry and the public to replace a system which is both relatively cheap and widely trusted? "},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/7443162640851054154"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1408220374290662568\/comments\/default\/7443162640851054154"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html?showComment=1414405556074#c7443162640851054154","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/news-from-epo-strike-ballot-comes-out.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1408220374290662568","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1408220374290662568","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-484195371"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 10:25:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-6616871188494615477"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T09:36:11.406Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T09:36:11.406Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"It does seem I rather walked into a trap with my \u0026..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"It does seem I rather walked into a trap with my \u0026quot;pharma is different because...\u0026quot; comment last week. Apologies for feeding the troll.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI had a little sarcastic joke planned (involving \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/rationalwiki.org\/wiki\/Bumblebee_argument\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003Ethis\u003C\/a\u003E) but I think MaxDrei has the right idea here. No more from me on this."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/6616871188494615477"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/6616871188494615477"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html?showComment=1414402571406#c6616871188494615477","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1148276202575049237","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1148276202575049237","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1241850441"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 09:36:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-228702159481585129"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T07:31:29.723Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T07:31:29.723Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I would like to see a ruling that is not based on ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I would like to see a ruling that is not based on YouTube or other  site with worldwide range. Imagine a work (video) published on a small Italian site with a description in Italian. Don\u0026#39;t you think that a direct link (frame) to it published on US site does not make in available to a completely new public that would not see it otherwise?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/228702159481585129"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/228702159481585129"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414395089723#c228702159481585129","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-300401732"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 07:31:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-8897489928515716111"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-27T01:03:39.153Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-27T01:03:39.153Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"(I\u0026#39;m the anonymous of 13:18 even though I\u0026#39;..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"(I\u0026#39;m the anonymous of 13:18 even though I\u0026#39;ll now write CJEU instead of ECJ.)\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Ci\u003ESeparately, I do wonder about the limits a copyright holder has when that holder creates a link to the world wide web. Is it not common knowledge that a link so placed without more (for example, not placed behind a pay-wall) is by the nature of the web, there for every possible audience on the web?\u003C\/i\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ETo some extent this has been acknowledged by the CJEU in Svensson. By making a work accessible through a hyperlink on the internet, the copyright holder communicates that work to all internet users. He can then not any longer stop others from communicating that same work to all internet users via the same technology.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EHowever, he can still stop others from copying that work (just not the transient\/incidental copy actions necessary to view the work through a browser).\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESo linking to a work legally made available on the internet is not a copyright infringement, but copying that work (e.g. to another web server to make it available from there) is an infringement."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/8897489928515716111"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/8897489928515716111"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414371819153#c8897489928515716111","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-929722860"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Monday, 27 October 2014 01:03:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1672578023193409717"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T20:24:15.646Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T20:24:15.646Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"WO9428902 Compounds for impotence.  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However, some subjects reported some interesting side effects.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIn small scale studies, some healthy volunteers reported that Viagra™ enhanced erections and so, in 1992, researchers changed direction and concentrated on developing Viagra™ as a treatment for erectile dysfunction.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe troll should go back in his 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26 October 2014 20:24:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-5383119812858944963"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T19:49:12.872Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T19:49:12.872Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Surely Daisy Dukes is included by implication by t..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Surely Daisy Dukes is included by implication by the reference to the Dukes of Hazzard?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/4391452321853731979\/comments\/default\/5383119812858944963"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/4391452321853731979\/comments\/default\/5383119812858944963"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/put-up-your-dukes-spot-of-sparring-in.html?showComment=1414352952872#c5383119812858944963","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/put-up-your-dukes-spot-of-sparring-in.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-4391452321853731979","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/4391452321853731979","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1175793729"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Sunday, 26 October 2014 19:49:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-7867363126657366422"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T19:08:19.559Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T19:08:19.559Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Not to be catty, but any story featuring dukes and..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Not to be catty, but any story featuring dukes and omitting daisy dukes is a supremely wasted opportunity."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/4391452321853731979\/comments\/default\/7867363126657366422"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/4391452321853731979\/comments\/default\/7867363126657366422"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/put-up-your-dukes-spot-of-sparring-in.html?showComment=1414350499559#c7867363126657366422","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/put-up-your-dukes-spot-of-sparring-in.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-4391452321853731979","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/4391452321853731979","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Sunday, 26 October 2014 19:08:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-329098600393053571"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T17:41:55.395Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T17:41:55.395Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Anon at 15:44\n\n\u0026quot;the point is that such patent..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Anon at 15:44\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u0026quot;the point is that such patent applications routinely do not have the proof at the level that other sections of government require until well after the filing date\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI disagree. \u0026quot;the point\u0026quot; it definitely is not. It is best that nobody here engage with a poster who wants to witter on (in an item about obviousness in England) about the concept of \u0026quot;utility\u0026quot; under the patent law of the USA.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EJust so too, over the level of proof that a government agency requires before it deems a drug safe to be let loose on the public.  Misleading and  irrelevant."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/329098600393053571"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/329098600393053571"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html?showComment=1414345315395#c329098600393053571","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"MaxDrei"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1148276202575049237","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1148276202575049237","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1924137361"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Sunday, 26 October 2014 17:41:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1634535755069272256"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T16:33:06.655Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T16:33:06.655Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Anonymous @ 13:18,\n\nI like the analogy you use in ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Anonymous @ 13:18,\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI like the analogy you use in regards to \u0026quot;footnote\u0026quot; and a mere reference to another work.  I would agree with you that any such type of \u0026quot;you might be interested in other work\u0026quot; cannot be construed as a violation of copyright, and that the presentation of a hyperlink - without more is difficult to equate with an actual presentation.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EEven moreso than a \u0026quot;map is not the land\u0026quot; analogy, a link is not a work.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESeparately, I do wonder about the limits a copyright holder has when that holder creates a link to the world wide web.  Is it not common knowledge that a link so placed without more (for example, not placed behind a pay-wall) is by the nature of the web, there for every possible audience on the web?  Is not consent, then naturally implied for anyone that has web access?  Given the fact that mechanisms for controlled access even when hyperlinked exist, should not the presumption of invitation to all be the de facto status when a copyright holder chooses to place a link without limits?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/1634535755069272256"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/106585042015090962\/comments\/default\/1634535755069272256"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html?showComment=1414341186655#c1634535755069272256","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/non-breaking-news-and-mystery-video.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-106585042015090962","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/106585042015090962","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Sunday, 26 October 2014 16:33:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-8913439156797842573"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T15:44:24.054Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T15:44:24.054Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"If we look at the simple facts concerning Viagra, ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"If we look at the simple facts concerning Viagra, Anonymous at 22:37 is simply incorrect.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe patent application for Viagra was filed in 1994.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EProof was not obtained until 1999.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe point here is not what type of proof would be acceptable to any single poster\u0026#39;s satisfaction, but rather, the point is that such patent applications routinely do not have the proof at the level that other sections of government require until well after the filing date.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ENo other art area gets such a pass of meeting the utility requirement as does pharma.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESince the utility requirement is not written to be art-specific (another fact that seems to elude the logical grasp of the \u0026quot;pro\u0026quot; pharma commentators), it is up to the pro-pharma commentators to come up with some (existing) legal rationale for the actual special treatment that pharma is receiving (and post-hoc \u0026quot;policy\u0026quot; wishful thinking does not cut it).  The law as written simply does not accord with your desire.  Wishful thinking - either in this argument, or in the application of the law as written - does not a compelling legal position make.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAnd no, neither am I against pharma patents, nor do I \u0026quot;dislike\u0026quot; them.  Rather, I dislike the innate \u0026quot;airs\u0026quot; that seems to come from the pharma industry when it comes to patent law, which tends to create \u0026quot;logic blinders.\u0026quot;"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/8913439156797842573"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/8913439156797842573"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html?showComment=1414338264054#c8913439156797842573","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1148276202575049237","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1148276202575049237","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Sunday, 26 October 2014 15:44:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-5488601529227760541"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T14:12:50.654Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T14:12:50.654Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I said that the Viagra patent was filed with known..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I said that the Viagra patent was filed with known utility.  The evidence is in the patent application.  If you\u0026#39;d bother to read it you would see that.  However, you are not interested in the facts, because they would destroy your unsupported allegations.  You have also not answered the question asked about the level of scientific evidence you believe is required.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAs in a previous blog discussion, for which I guess you are the same person who spouts criticism, but fails to deal with issues, this discussion has now become tiresome."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/5488601529227760541"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/5488601529227760541"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html?showComment=1414332770654#c5488601529227760541","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1148276202575049237","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1148276202575049237","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-877716445"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Sunday, 26 October 2014 14:12:00 GMT"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-3970008561274613144"},"published":{"$t":"2014-10-26T13:50:17.355Z"},"updated":{"$t":"2014-10-26T13:50:17.355Z"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Even Viagra was not KNOWN to have the utility at t..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Even Viagra was not KNOWN to have the utility \u003Cb\u003Eat the time of filing\u003C\/b\u003E.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ETry to stay on point people - that point being that pharma patents - as a rule - are filed prematurely, and thus should not be granted.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThere are no pharma patents that have completed and thus \u003Cb\u003Epossessed\u003C\/b\u003E the utility at the time of filing.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EWhether or not the \u0026quot;hoped-for\u0026quot; utility is later confirmed is quite besides the point."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/3970008561274613144"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/5574479\/1148276202575049237\/comments\/default\/3970008561274613144"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html?showComment=1414331417355#c3970008561274613144","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"http:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/ipkitten.blogspot.com\/2014\/10\/obviousness-common-general-knowledge.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-1148276202575049237","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5574479/posts/default/1148276202575049237","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1426938674"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"Sunday, 26 October 2014 13:50:00 GMT"}]}]}});