tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post5631144211050311656..comments2024-03-28T16:45:51.051+00:00Comments on The IPKat: Paywalls and Robin Hoods: the tale of Elsevier and Sci-Hub.orgVerónica RodrÃguez Arguijohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05763207846940036921noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-22918712890231641742016-06-07T10:46:20.032+01:002016-06-07T10:46:20.032+01:00This seems to be more of a cultural problem in aca...This seems to be more of a cultural problem in academia. An academic's status is based largely on the journals they publish in, and the reputable journals are owned by publishers like Elsevier. It would be nice if there was an alternative. Paywallhttp://superstack.ionoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-65190255319031643862015-10-04T16:21:40.996+01:002015-10-04T16:21:40.996+01:00More on copyright versus open access from an econo...More on copyright versus open access from an economic point of view:http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783319127385Mariia Parubetshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06288502134526041497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-8981901738562238572015-10-04T01:10:07.091+01:002015-10-04T01:10:07.091+01:00"This statement misunderstands the idea/expre..."This statement misunderstands the idea/expression dichotomy as Elsevier does not actually own the knowledge but rather the expression of the knowledge in the form of the articles."<br /><br />This is a naive statement, in the sense it is using "own" in a very formalistic way that is totally divorced from the real-world understanding of the word.<br /><br />If you publish in an Elsevier journal, you won't be able to use the figures illustrating raw data in your paper without "permission" from Elsevier - never mind that there is (or should be) no copyright in the data itself, because of that very same idea/expression dichotomy. The publisher will and does blandly state it owns copyright to the article itself, and not merely the expressive portions thereof.<br /><br />They control, whether fairly or not, access to the data ("knowledge") - and in any real sense of the word, the consequently own it.<br /><br />That they shouldn't own all of it is something entirely different.<br /><br />Even the quote confuses things by saying "in the form of the articles". Not everything in an article is copyrightable - but the very form of this expression belies the assumption that it is. And this is why people like Alexandra Elbakyan are confused and outraged - their instincts tell them what the law actually says should be the case - the knowledge/data itself isn't owned, but the entire world acts as if it actually is - publishers and copyright lawyers alike.Luke Ueda-Sarsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02004840067785236764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-7059904535342877762015-10-03T02:39:33.795+01:002015-10-03T02:39:33.795+01:00Academic publishing is an interesting example of t...Academic publishing is an interesting example of the power of branding. Once publishers provided the presses and plant necessary to distribute articles. Now given the digitization of the press, all they provide is an organizing function. Public money is used to fund research, peer review of articles submitted to journals is carried out on a volunteer basis by academics for no renumeration and subscriptions to journals are again usually paid for by public money. Publishers are handsomely paid to apply what is essentially a certification mark to chosen articles. However, that branding by "high impact" journals is valuable because papers are the currency of the academic world leading to tenure, grants and promotion. Academics should realize that can still be achieved while not assigning copyright.Stephen Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09132491042265575095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-44311786714262141722015-10-02T20:19:20.764+01:002015-10-02T20:19:20.764+01:00"if not viable under the current capitalist r...<i>"if not viable under the current capitalist regime" now that sounds ominous.</i><br /><br />Evidently a closet Corbynite ... :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-17897850758219764082015-10-02T20:05:00.688+01:002015-10-02T20:05:00.688+01:00I don't mind subsidising Elbakyan. Happy to wo...I don't mind subsidising Elbakyan. Happy to work my ass off to pay for food, accomodation, a nice car and holidays and anything else required. Where do I send fill in my credit car details? Or should I just send my credit card?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-70287972807649479922015-10-02T16:55:11.992+01:002015-10-02T16:55:11.992+01:00"if not viable under the current capitalist r..."if not viable under the current capitalist regime" now that sounds ominous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-68014270937550329412015-10-02T14:29:00.085+01:002015-10-02T14:29:00.085+01:00sympathetic to the naked breaking of ip law....
M...sympathetic to the naked breaking of ip law....<br /><br />Methinks the author might want a different profession.The Pigsnoreply@blogger.com