tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post82727411350645326..comments2024-03-28T13:45:42.289+00:00Comments on The IPKat: Disturbing news from Eponia: staff union under fireVerónica Rodríguez Arguijohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05763207846940036921noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-69015122524304972942015-06-01T20:54:41.209+01:002015-06-01T20:54:41.209+01:00As to FIFA vs EPONIA, here's something from th...As to FIFA vs EPONIA, here's something from the end of last week, in a thread over on UK newspaper The Guardian:<br /><br />"The parallels between President Blatter and President Battistelli are striking. Both are adored by their constituency because both have the power to direct a tasty pile of money to those who vote for them. No accounts. No accountability. No transparency. No sunlight. And in Battistelli's case, strikingly, those voters are exclusively the 38 Member States of the European Patent Organisation ie the sovereign first world, highly-civilised States of Europe. It seems that these very governments like things how they are today, at the EPO.<br /><br />In Rome there is an enclave beyond the Rule of Law called The Vatican City, ruled over by The Pope. In Munich there is the Republic of Eponia, also beyond the law, and ruled over by Battistelli. Eponia is the home of the European Patent Office, that takes in squillions of cash, and doles it out to its owners, the Members of its Administrative Council, civil servants who are there to represent the 38 Member States of Europe. But hey, these civil servants are only human after all, aren't they.<br /><br />President Benoit Battistelli (some call him "Battistoritelli") is a career politician from France, a mate of M. Sarkozi, and he has the 38 AC members in his capacious pocket. Not even the AC members know how much the President awards himself in "compensation". Question Benoit, ever-smiling, ever hand-shaking, ever-equable in public, quite other when away from the public eye. Ask him what adjustments of the cash flow will he contemplate, in consequence. <br /><br />You talk of abuse of employment rights in Quatar. Consider instead the abuse of rights of those many thousands who work at the EPO. Being outside the Rule of Law, they have no rights. Consider that you cannot find out anything about how EPO workers are treated by management, and ask why that might be.<br /><br />There is a problem today with NGO's wherever you look. But if you are looking for one where Western Europe can set an example to the rest of the world, there's none better than the EPO. And of course the corollary is if the 38 choose to do nothing, they are no better than the countries of Asia, Africa and South and Central America that today (I'm talking to you, Big Dave) they are so quick to criticise.<br /><br />The grapevine reports that the UK is bent on doing something at the level of the AC of the EPO. But the hard bit is implementation. If only the USA sat on the EPO's AC. The USA has a record of actually doing something, when doing something is called for."<br />MaxDreinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-66869613609115478112015-06-01T19:08:35.584+01:002015-06-01T19:08:35.584+01:00speaking of comparisons... compare FIFA to EPO:
...speaking of comparisons... compare FIFA to EPO:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.fosspatents.com/2015/06/striking-structural-parallels-between.html" rel="nofollow"> Striking structural parallels between the European Patent Office and soccer body FIFA </a>football fannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-35264311760378600402015-06-01T17:36:55.472+01:002015-06-01T17:36:55.472+01:00Compare
http://www.suepo.org/public/su15215cp.pdf...Compare<br /><br />http://www.suepo.org/public/su15215cp.pdf<br /><br />and<br /><br />http://www.epo.org/news-issues/news/2015/20150601.html<br /><br />for the latest progress in Eponia. <br /><br />RemoteRiskControllerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-28809464467796300282015-05-28T15:41:33.370+01:002015-05-28T15:41:33.370+01:00Our governments should act.Our governments should act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-7297168280190979402015-05-27T18:27:03.174+01:002015-05-27T18:27:03.174+01:00Lulubelle, you never cease to expand my musical ho...Lulubelle, you never cease to expand my musical horizon!<br /><br />Do you want to marry me?<br />Roufousse T. Fairflynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-58803692731473617292015-05-27T13:35:15.446+01:002015-05-27T13:35:15.446+01:00The refeences to "BB" make me think of t...The refeences to "BB" make me think of the late, lamented, departed bluesman BB King, which somehow seems appropriate for this BB (especially as he is associated with the town of Louis XIV). SO, I guess he could sing his own blues:<br /><br />Everyday, everyday I have the blues <br />Everyday, everyday I have the blues <br />When you see me worried baby <br />Because I simply hate to lose <br /><br />Oh nobody loves me, nobody seems to care <br />Yes nobody loves me, nobody seems to care <br />Speaking of bad luck and trouble <br />Well you know I had my share <br /><br />I'm gonna wreck my office, move folk down the line <br />Yes I'm gonna wreck my office, move folk down the line <br />An’ I ain't at all worried <br />'Cos I can’t hear nobody cryin’<br />Lulubelle H. MacTavishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-41903265022378382832015-05-26T20:47:52.265+01:002015-05-26T20:47:52.265+01:00The Investigation Guidelines are the EPO are the f...The Investigation Guidelines are the EPO are the following: <br />1) You are not allowed to come with a lawyer, you don’t have the right to remain silent and an audio recorder stores everything you say. <br />2) The "fact finding process" then continues with several guards coming to your office to check everything you have in it. Your phone calls and emails are then analyzed. <br />3) The procedure is entirely confidential. You don’t have the right to talk about it, not even your friends about it.<br /><br />All the collected data and your psychological profile is then given to BB. BB can then decide to launch a disciplinary procedure or not. A disciplinary committee is constituted. It makes a recommendation that BB will ultimately ignore if he has decided to sack you by all means.<br /><br />Are these really "best international standards"?<br /><br />It is now blatant that the Investigation Unit (IU) of the EPO is the political police of BB.<br /><br />1) Last year, the Central Staff Committee tried to organize a staff survey on the "social democracy" reform . BB got furious and sent the IU to suspend the expert who was in charge of organizing the survey.<br />2) Recently, the IU stole the computer of a member of the Boards of Appeals (a 'judge') and banned him from the Office. <br />3) Several resignations took place among staff representatives. But BB will never acknowledge his responsibility in these resignations. Now, the IU investigates the remaining ones. Control Risks, an external company, has apparently been commissioned this time. Maybe to give the "perception of impartiality" of the procedure?<br /><br />The political investigations of the IU are not launched by BB himself. It is important to keep the "perception of independence of the IU". BB can use one his cronies for that. For instance, Ms Bergot, Head of the Human Resources and spouse of the right-arm of BB, is a regular "customer" of the IU. Her hobby? To sack staff.<br />Kafkanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-32553154167573814262015-05-26T17:05:56.308+01:002015-05-26T17:05:56.308+01:00We are the office said:
@FAFNIR:
Face it: People ...We are the office said:<br />@FAFNIR: <br />Face it: People don't care. <br />More and more unbelievable things happen, but nobody is interested.<br />People outside the EPO are still envious because of our high wages, people inside are frustrated, have given up all hopes and try to get on somehow. Good example: Lower presence at demonstrations. Those who don't want to resign leave. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-78805833936771076692015-05-26T14:27:04.700+01:002015-05-26T14:27:04.700+01:00THE EPO Jester found...
...this under the King'...THE EPO Jester found...<br />...this under the King's desk<br /><br />Investigative Unit and external firms<br /><br />26.05.2015<br /> <br />Regarding questions raised in recent publications and blogs<br /> <br />Dear colleagues,<br /><br />Some recent publication and blogs have questioned the participation of an external firm in EPO activities related to the Investigative Unit. I want to clarify that because the EPO Investigative Unit is rather small in terms of staffing, we need to be able to contract external companies to support our fact finding enquiries. This is one reason why an external firm can be chosen in regard to an investigation, operating within the regulatory framework of the EPO, under the full supervision of the Investigative Unit.<br /><br />The European Patent Office cannot comment on specific internal investigation cases. This lack of comment is to protect the integrity of any such case and protect the interest of all parties concerned. However I would like to remind the Office has a duty of care to its employees including to investigate allegations of harassment against them by other employees. Investigations can only take place following specific allegations, made by EPO staff or external parties, and these investigations are independently and objectively carried out by the Investigative Unit, under its sole responsibility.<br /><br />The investigation process of the EPO follows the best international standards and allows persons to be heard, to respond and to defend themselves against any allegations, before any conclusion of misconduct would be reported to the employee's appointing authority. Only in any case where a serious misconduct is confirmed by the Investigative Unit, a disciplinary case could be instigated where the subject has a further right to be heard before a disciplinary committee and before any subsequent decision on a sanction would be taken.<br /><br />In 2014, the Investigative Unit received 68 allegations of misconduct (-23% compared to 2013), 50% being already rejected as insufficiently specified.<br /><br /> <br /> <br />John Martin<br />PD Internal Audit and Oversight<br /> <br />Perhaps an amusing detail is that Control Risks is a member of Transparency International...<br /><br />https://www.transparency.de/Control-Risks-RB-31.1217.0.html<br /><br />...and sorry for posting this comment first at the wrong post<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-38980961111208437382015-05-26T13:41:40.731+01:002015-05-26T13:41:40.731+01:00Control Risk:- Navy seals, army officers, etc.
ht...Control Risk:- Navy seals, army officers, etc.<br /><br />https://www.controlrisks.com/~/media/Public%20Site/Files/About%20Us/2015/20150428boardmembers.pdfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-74311247605729723392015-05-26T12:18:31.264+01:002015-05-26T12:18:31.264+01:00It appears that the office has posted an internal ...<br />It appears that the office has posted an internal note "Regarding questions raised in recent publications and blogs" under "Investigative unit and external firms".<br /><br />Can someone provide a copy?Mr. Propagandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-35715508271982720112015-05-26T11:33:37.147+01:002015-05-26T11:33:37.147+01:00Vostradamus remarks:
I fully agree with Fafnir: Ro...Vostradamus remarks:<br />I fully agree with Fafnir: Roufousse has killed the discussion with the useless boring lists. <br />I intervened by suggesting to Suepo a stop to the trilateral meetings under the new circumstances of an investigation to be carried out by Control Risks for the management. <br />I suggested to request publicly the intermediation of neutral mediator and I have proposed Mr Vermeij.<br />No one has anything to say about these ideas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-21023405750608959922015-05-26T10:09:54.886+01:002015-05-26T10:09:54.886+01:00Completely Spooked said:
Not so fast Fafnir. Rou...<b> Completely Spooked </b> said:<br /><br />Not so fast Fafnir. Roufousse may have a point albeit poorly stated.<br />If you sift through the interminable lists of the posted items, some details emerge which may deserve closer attention. For example:<br /><br /><b>146596-2015 Provision of security services for the EPO Buildings in The Hague, the Netherlands </b><br />What kind of "security services" ?<br />The EPO already has security services of its own.<br /> <br /><b>326531-2012 Supply of off-the-shelf software for centralised storage, retention and control of access to the log data generated on all computer equipment within the EPO ... </b><br />Clearly a routine IT support measure ... honi soit qui mal y pense ...<br /><br />222703-2012 Maintenance work on the windows and <b>facades</b> of the EPO buildings <br />Maintenance of "facades" is clearly a priority.<br /> <br /><b>169288-2012 Support for the EPO's Internal Communication Department</b><br />Badly needed after the last mysterious resignation of the Director of Internal Communication ...<br /><br /><b> 65564-2012 IT and business related consultancy </b><br />Could this refer to the activities of Control Risks ?<br /><br /><b>63837-2012 sale, installation and maintenance of Firewall equipment by the Contractor </b><br />The Great Firewall of Munich ?<br /><br /> <br /><b>329417-2011 Conclusion of a framework agreement with a lead agency for media and external communication</b> <br /><br /><b>226965-2011 The supply to the EPO of a case management system </b><br />Are these patent cases or investigative cases ? <br /><br /><br /><b>384673-2010 Inspection of the premises </b><br />What kind of "inspection" is this ?<br /><br /><br /><b>304350-2010 Delivery and installation of a Microphone System for the Auditorium</b><br />With or without built-in surveillance and secret recording features ?<br /><br /><br /><b>164444-2010 A study of IT at the European Patent Office</b><br />This could cover a multitude of sins ...<br /><br />All in all, some interesting leads in there which may need to be followed up.<br />Roufousse just needs to work on his presentation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-59027559721249749502015-05-26T00:45:50.072+01:002015-05-26T00:45:50.072+01:00Dear Roufousse T. Fairfly
What are you trying to a...Dear Roufousse T. Fairfly<br />What are you trying to achieve or prove with an endless list of orders issued by the EPO?<br /><br />Are you trying to kill off this discussion? Or What was the point of boring the pants of everyone with that random list? We all know that the EPO needs stationery, furniture and even toilet paper.<br /><br />Seeing that I am the first one to write a comment after a gap of nearly 12 hours after your listing, I think you may well have succeeded if that was your aim.Fafnirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-39614601531955038542015-05-25T12:36:18.979+01:002015-05-25T12:36:18.979+01:00Part 3/3
189530-2012 Assisting the Board of Audi...Part 3/3<br /><br />189530-2012 Assisting the Board of Auditors in its audit of the Organisation's annual accounts<br />169288-2012 Support for the EPO's Internal Communication Department<br />165677-2012 The conduct of a pre-certification audit and a full certification audit and the preparation and implementation of training courses<br />142076-2012 The provision of market research services through the conduct of telephone surveys in 4 languages and the analysis of the results (User Satisfaction Surveys (USS) for patent search and examination services - 2012)<br />139185-2012 The provision of parallel quality assurance support for all tasks (incl. the tendering, planning and execution) required for the entire process to built the new tower building in The Hague<br />135409-2012 Consultancy services for a review of the strategic asset allocation<br />103004-2012 Assisting the European Patent Office's medical adviser in Munich <br />87385-2012 Painting work<br />65564-2012 IT and business related consultancy<br />63837-2012 sale, installation and maintenance of Firewall equipment by the Contractor<br />188-2012 Design, engineering and construction of a new office accommodation on the EPO's premises in The Hague (Rijswijk), the Netherlands<br />381627-2011 purchase and delivery of CANON printer cartridges<br />329417-2011 Conclusion of a framework agreement with a lead agency for media and external communication<br />226965-2011 The supply to the EPO of a case management system<br />182198-2011 Independent study on some of the EPO's main support areas regarding their effectiveness, efficiency, structure, organisation and methods including benchmarking with other comparable organisations or enterprises<br />164676-2011 Framework agreement relating to management training services<br />384673-2010 Inspection of the premises<br />304350-2010 Delivery and installation of a Microphone System for the Auditorium<br />292551-2010 electricity<br />256691-2010 Consultancy for benchmarking of e-recruitment solutions against CADABRA<br />226421-2010 Independent quantitative and qualitative study of the behaviour of inexperienced applicants of the European patent system<br />221162-2010 Provision of auditing services as assistance to the Board of Auditors of the EPOrg<br />208223-2010 Framework contract for the purchase and supply of canteen sundries<br />164444-2010 A study of IT at the European Patent Office<br />Roufousse T. Fairflynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-17546212236448576592015-05-25T12:35:29.921+01:002015-05-25T12:35:29.921+01:00Part 2/3
74378-2014 Operating the Office's &...Part 2/3<br /><br />74378-2014 Operating the Office's "Merlin" crèche in Munich (67 places)<br />54575-2014 Study of health and safety related services in the EPO, suggestion of changes where necessary, and (optional) support in the implementation phase of any suggested changes<br />50738-2014 Conclusion of an agreement relating to the provision of auditing services as assistance to the Board of Auditors (Board) of the European Patent Organisation<br />286318-2013 The provision of First Line Customer Services ("the Services"), including other related services<br />239093-2013 Framework contract for financial modelling and simulations, financial planning, scenario analysis and actuarial calculations<br />235150-2013 Delivery of an independent performance measurement and performance reporting service for the Reserve Funds for Pensions and Social Security (RFPSS) of the EPO<br />233393-2013 Framework contract for Management Accounting and other budget execution services<br />206372-2013 Framework contract for media and advertising services for recruitment purposes<br />172122-2013 Printing of examination papers and electronic processing of handwritten examination answers<br />138921-2013 Provision of temporary staff to assist the work of the examiners in different technical fields<br />73106-2013 Provision of cleaning work at the EPO's premises in Rijswijk<br />64823-2013 Provision of consultancy services for quantifying the cost of patenting in Europe<br />36280-2013 Support for the e-learning activities for the EPO<br />403494-2012 IT and Business related work, managed services and/or support services<br />387773-2012 Framework Contract with regard to the production of the films and footages on the nominees of the European Inventor award as well as on the ceremony of the European Inventor award<br />363102-2012 consultancy services related to Contract Management for monitoring and controlling a Design and Construct Contract for a new office building in Rijswijk, the Netherlands<br />343122-2012 Award of a Framework Contract relating to "Train-the-Trainer" Services<br />326531-2012 Supply of off-the-shelf software for centralised storage, retention and control of access to the log data generated on all computer equipment within the EPO and the provision of software maintenance<br />297839-2012 Framework Contract with regard to planning, organising and running the ceremony of the European Inventor Award<br />292196-2012 Provision of work and consultancy services for the design and conception of external communication materials of the European Patent Office and Organisation<br />271831-2012 Framework Contract with regard to development of the EPO internet website and the EPO intranet<br />256529-2012 Framework agreement relating to the inward transfer of pension rights<br />222703-2012 Maintenance work on the windows and facades of the EPO buildings<br />204029-2012 Framework agreement relating to the provision of different project management courses<br />198085-2012 Framework contract relating to the construction of exhibition stands<br />Roufousse T. Fairflynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-53143907664776593972015-05-25T12:34:35.272+01:002015-05-25T12:34:35.272+01:00Part 1/3
What this company really does, or is sup...Part 1/3<br /><br />What this company really does, or is supposed to actually deliver to the EPO, is very mysterious. Their self-description is vague enough to allow any interpretation, from the harmless, as in collecting press clippings, to the insidious, nämlich: some sort of private spook à la CIA/KGB/MI5/BND, with their staff of lamplighters, pavement artists, wranglers, or ferrets (cf. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_Tailor_Soldier_Spy#Jargon" rel="nofollow">John Le Carré</a>). Would they have scalphunters too? <br /><br />The EPO puts out every year a few dozen contracts out to tender on the EU's <a href="http://ted.europa.eu" rel="nofollow">TED (Tender Electronic Daily)</a> web site. <br /><br />I looked it up to see whether I could gain some insight on the contractor's mandate, but I could not find any current or past RFPs whose description appears to match what this company seems to offer.<br /><br />Perhaps the amount involved is too insignificant to put out to tender? The <a href="http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32014L0024" rel="nofollow">EU</a> currently demands that all procurements over about 110 kEUR be subjected to a public invitation for proposals. Even though the EPOrg as embodied by her President claims to be absolutely immune to any law but its own, there are surely internal regulations limiting the discretion with which money can be spent, at least on a formal level.<br /><br />Here is an admittedly arbitrary sample of invitation for tenders put out by the EPO in the last five years. They range from the janitorial to the strategic, and include summer jobs (through a pimp, er, sorry, contractor), porters, stationery, EQE document processing, but also medical services, accounting, auditing or consulting services. Many of of these invitations are rather mundane or seem to involve relatively small amounts.<br /><br />171731-2015 The provision of on-demand human translation service for patent documents and other scientific literature from ZH, KR, JP, RU and SP into EN<br />146596-2015 Provision of security services for the EPO Buildings in The Hague, the Netherlands<br />109962-2015 Provision of intensive French and German language courses<br />79957-2015 Maintenance of technical installations at the EPO's premises at The Hague, the Netherlands<br />55281-2015 Carpenter works<br />51283-2015 Framework contract for the purchase of around 40 desk combinations for directors<br />13779-2015 Lift and escalator management<br />2943-2015 Purchase and delivery of stationery to the EPO's sites in The Hague, Munich and Berlin<br />416243-2014 Hygienic-technical treatment<br />256109-2014 Framework contract for the purchase of 600 office swivel chairs with armrests<br />245138-2014 Market research through multilingual user satisfaction survey(s), analysis and report(s) of results for patent search and examination services<br />223450-2014 Yearly international survey and analysis services relating to future patent filing numbers on the basis of a framework agreement<br />115858-2014 Co-ordination consultancy and documentation services, and fault clearance — Technical building maintenance<br />80669-2014 Disposal of waste and recycling thereof for the buildings of the EPO in MunichRoufousse T. Fairflynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-60446101549488609562015-05-25T09:49:04.827+01:002015-05-25T09:49:04.827+01:00A 28th May Phantom Meeting says…
JK: “Hello, TUs ...A 28th May Phantom Meeting says…<br /><br />JK: “Hello, TUs and SR . Welcome to you, your faithful chairman, and that handsome young man and pretty new face. I'm so terribly happy to see all of you. But before we move on with the agenda points, I wonder if you could spare me a little time and assist me with a few trivial tasks?”<br /><br />ZT: “Why of course, we're in no hurry.”<br /><br />BB:” Now young man, if you will take these exquisite tweezers, and move this pile of sand from here, to here.”<br /><br />TU:” With these?”<br /><br />EB: “Of course. And you sir, have the privilege of taking this delicate needle for digging a hole through this cliff.”<br /><br />TU: “Why, thank you sir! An exacting assignment, quite worthy of my talents. I shall enjoy it no end.”<br /><br />BB: “And you sir, get to take this eye-dropper and empty that well.”<br />SR: “But these tasks don't seem very important.”<br /><br />JK: “Of course they're not important! If you always do the easy and useless jobs, you'll never have to worry about the important ones!”<br /><br />New face: “Now I know who you are! You're BB!”<br /><br />BB: “Quite correct! BB, demon of petty tasks, ogre of wasted effort!”<br /><br />SR: “Come on TU, let's get out of here!”<br /><br />JK: “[advancing] And to lazy and foolish people everywhere!”<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-62681015150967444912015-05-25T08:14:25.362+01:002015-05-25T08:14:25.362+01:00The investigation unit has no realistic way of inv...The investigation unit has no realistic way of investigating the private lives of EPO employees outside the office.<br /><br />Control Risks has the expertise to do so. From now on, every EPO employee should be prepared to be tracked by detectives, have bugs placed in their home during their absence and their private home computers riddled with spyware (and that might apply to blog websites too!)<br /><br />And only Control Risks is able to investigate the members of the investigation unit.<br /><br />The BB Nightmare has only just begun ...Fafnirnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-13583588022435422002015-05-25T06:47:16.225+01:002015-05-25T06:47:16.225+01:00Vostradamus said:
"At this point, Suepo shoul...Vostradamus said:<br />"At this point, Suepo should interrupt any dialogue in view of the new unjustified intimidation and publicly declare itself ready to continue only through the intervention of a neutral mediator."<br />Now Vostradamus suggests:<br />SUEPO should propose as neutral mediator Mr Vermeij, now Dutch Consul in Munich but formerly Vice-President DG2. He knows the EPO, has frequented the AC, is familiar with the staff and should master the diplomatic arts. <br />For Battistelli, who dislikes him, "an offer he cannot refuse" without making himself ridiculous. A winning move.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-52418037935844746242015-05-24T11:36:36.583+01:002015-05-24T11:36:36.583+01:00A wise owl says...
@"honorable men" ???...A wise owl says...<br /><br />@"honorable men" ?????. Who exactly are you referring to?...Surely not the members of the AC ?<br /><br />Wise Owl: O fellow bloggers! If I were disposed to stir, your hearts and minds to mutiny and rage, I should do BB wrong, and the AC wrong, who you all know, are honorable men. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-10379120497875132572015-05-24T11:31:30.896+01:002015-05-24T11:31:30.896+01:00 So are they all, all honourable men--
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... So are they all, all honourable men--<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />Fourth Citizen<br /><br /> They were traitors: honourable men!<br /><br />[...]<br /><br />Second Citizen<br /><br /> They were villains, murderers [...]<br />Brutusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-81308680531657856532015-05-24T11:25:39.229+01:002015-05-24T11:25:39.229+01:00Out of interest, does Suepo think that they are be...Out of interest, does Suepo think that they are being investigated but others (e.g. The AC?) aren't?More cynicalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-69838500358510811612015-05-24T10:55:37.730+01:002015-05-24T10:55:37.730+01:00"honorable men" ?????
Who exactly are y..."honorable men" ?????<br /><br />Who exactly are you referring to ?<br />Surely not the members of the AC ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5574479.post-69236854190250072842015-05-23T22:56:14.988+01:002015-05-23T22:56:14.988+01:00A wise owl says…
In the middle of the IP landsca...A wise owl says…<br /><br />In the middle of the IP landscaped garden stands an old majestic oak which we all admire, full of life and loads of acorns. On a beautiful sunny morning and from a balcony some honorable men admired some squirrels running playfully up, down and round the old oak tree, a moment of pleasure captured in a perfect world they thought. This beautiful spectacle was an invitation for these honorable men to walk the garden and having a closer look at this majestic tree, arriving at the tree they were shocked about what they witnessed and faced a dilemma. The majestic oak appeared to be hollow only providing shelter for a couple of squirrels and a wise owl, it suddenly lost its former glory and was about to collapse. The dilemma these honorable men faced was either axing the oak tree or fill it with concrete. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com